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Emily
    06/16/06 at 01:42 PM
  Reply with quote#46

Mari, I'm a big fan of Wendell Berry.  Here's a great quote from him that I came across:

 

“The most alarming sign of the state of our society now is that our leaders have the courage to sacrifice the lives of young people in war but have not the courage to tell us that we must be less greedy and wasteful.”

 

He's one of my favorite poets I just picked up his 2005 collection called Given.  Here's a few favorites of mine:

 

From Openings (1968)

The Want of Peace

 

All goes back to the earth,

and so I do no desire

pride of excess or power,

but the contentments made

by men who have had little:

the fisherman's silence

receiving the river's grace,

the gardener's musing on rows.

 

I lack the peace of simple things.

I am never wholly in place.

I find no peace or grace.

We sell the world to buy fire,

our way lighted by burning men,

and that has bent my mind

and made me think of darkness

and wish for the dumb life of roots.

 

From A Part (1980)

To What Listens

 

I come to it again

and again, the thought of the wren

opening his song here

to no human ear -

no woman to look up,

no man to turn his head.

The farm will sink then

from all we have done and said.

Beauty will lie, fold

on fold, upon it.  Foreseeing

it so, I cannot withhold

love.  But from the height

and distance of foresight,

how well I like it

as it is!  The river shining,

the bare trees on the bank,

the house set snug

as a stone in the hill's flank,

the pasture behind it green.

Its songs and loves throb

in my head till like the wren

I sing - to what listens - again.

 

susan
    06/21/06 at 08:31 PM
  Reply with quote#47

 

 

The only problem
with Haiku is that you just
get started and then
~Roger McGough

Emily
    06/23/06 at 11:54 PM
  Reply with quote#48

Ha! Love it Susan! Ain't that the truth, in poetry and everything else...


Thought I'd share this fresh one of mine:

Where the Continent Divides
eph, June 23, 2006

At this height, it strains my eyes
to see
if this is the place where things come to begin or
to end.

Where there’s nothing between me and sky
except sky,
the trees cease to be, or are barely trees
at all.

Those I can see stand below
my gaze,
bravely standing sentry,
daring

each other to reach just that much
higher.
Wind swept and battered,
barebacked

arms open to the sun and
the sky,
until, at last, I spot what is the
last one.

There are no rivers here, yet they
whisper
below the surface. In this place bides their
mother

and as she weeps,
they sing.
Her tears a seemingly
endless

tonic of love and sacrifice that only a mother
can shed.
They taste of of hope and joy, pride and
sadness.

Charged with the love of what is
to come
and haunted by the melancholy that what will come
will end.
Cindy
    06/24/06 at 11:02 AM
  Reply with quote#49

Remarkable Emily.  I just started getting into poetry so I know I am a neophyte and all, but I find some striking similarities to your poem and Todd's "mist" posted about the same time last night. 

Janelle
    06/24/06 at 11:21 PM
  Reply with quote#50

These posts are so incredibly nourishing. I was inspired to contribute a poem by Julia de Burgos:

My Road Is Space


To find your distant pupils this night
I have conquered skies, high seas, and meadows.
I have undone the sob of the lost echos...
I have the deep infinite playing in my hands.

The smile feels me. It is the last dream
of a sprout of dawn that joined my reclamation...
I want you to advance in spirit and wings,
my song entangled in warbles and birds.

I will wait for your life. Lift my illusion.
Look at me all in embers. Rest on my lips.
So simple, that in equal halves of harmony,
your bonds and my bonds would break together!

Become the caress, I don't want you to limit
your eyes in my body. My road is space.
To travel me is to flee from all paths...
I am the dancing imbalance of the stars.
Emily
    06/27/06 at 12:02 PM
  Reply with quote#51

Yay Janelle! So good to see you here!

I just got an anthology of Latin American poetry from the library, and though I’m thoroughly enjoying it, it is woefully void of women poets! This is a great add.

I'm really only familiar with Gabriela Mistral - here's one of hers:

Creed
I believe in my heart that when
The wounded heart sunk within the depth of God sings
It rises from the pond alive
As if new-born.

I believe in my heart that what I wring from myself
To tinge life’s canvas
With red of pallid hue, thus cloaking it
In luminous garb. 

On her tombstone, it reads (her words):
"What the soul is to the body, so is the artist to his people"
Mari
    06/27/06 at 07:36 PM
  Reply with quote#52

Janelle, what a great poem, especially the final lines of the last stanza, they're quite liberating, aren't they?

Janelle
    07/07/06 at 04:45 PM
  Reply with quote#53

Liberating indeed:-) I couldn't help but bring forth another poem from Julia De Burgos. It's a bit lengthy but I find it a fitting inclusion, to Gabriela Mistral's "Creed". Thanks Emily for introducing me to her work. I just purchased Gabriela's book, Women, from Amazon. I understand it's a collection of her poetry along with other female poets...Let's hear it for the Girls:-)

Dawnings


Dawnings in my soul!
Dawnings in my mind!

When the intimate door is opened
to enter one's self,
what dawnings!

To gather the hour that passes trembling at our side,
and make it now,
and make it robust,
and make it universal.

And let it sing
and let it scream;
and let it penetrate in all the anonymous corners
awakening rebellions;
and let it sweep the face of the eternal hunchbacks of time
sick of not thinking;
and let it hang all the songs of bourgeois ways
and break its seconds in a million proletarian hymns.

Dawnings in my soul
Dawnings in my mind!

When the intimate door is opened
to enter one's self,
what dawnings!

There inside,
deep inside,
to approach life.

To see...
To listen...
To smell...
To taste...
And touch...
earth.

And in the earth...
man
perpendicular over his own life.

Man earth
made in two violent dimensions.
The common dimension:
five senses,
and one body and one mind.

The whole man. Him.

The other,
the social dimension:
tradition,
race,
capital.

Man bourgeoisfied
of body,
of mind
and energy

Man derailed
fleeing ferociously from himself.

That bourgeois man
must be destroyed,
now,
at the present time,
in the robust hour,
in the universal hour.

The world awakens!
When the intimate door is opened
to enter one's self,
what dawnings!
Kelly Laws
    07/09/06 at 04:47 AM
  Reply with quote#54

I'm just trying to figure out this forum.  I do remember listening to Todd recorded, speaking his podcasts, but I can't seem to find that area of the site.  Anyway, while I'm here, here's a blast from my past.

 

3/26/98

 

Looking deep into your soul,

you can read yourself.

 

Looking through water

under a mirror,

reflection staring,

brain-storming and babbling

 

Whatever comes out of your mouth is

- How you see yourself

- How others see you

- Your future

 

and is the truth

 

Your reflection changes form

as you view your

mapped out destiny.

Cindy
    07/09/06 at 12:26 PM
  Reply with quote#55

Janelle:  Thanks for sharing Julia De Burgos; her poems are so poignant.  I just read her bio.  Her life was filled with much pain which most certainly contributed to her heroic qualities. 

 

Yes to the girls!

 

A Meeting
Mary Oliver 
  She steps into the dark swamp
where the long wait ends.

The secret slippery package
drops to the weeds.

She leans her long neck and tongues it
between breaths slack with exhaustion

and after a while it rises and becomes a creature
like her, but much smaller.

So now there are two. And they walk together
like a dream under the trees.

In early June, at the edge of a field
thick with pink and yellow flowers

I meet them.
I can only stare.

She is the most beautiful woman
I have ever seen.

Her child leaps among the flowers,
the blue of the sky falls over me

like silk, the flowers burn, and I want
to live my life all over again, to begin again,

to be utterly
wild.

Emily
    07/09/06 at 01:46 PM
  Reply with quote#56

These are great!!
Cindy, I'm so glad you're liking Mary Oliver! She's a hero of mine - I really think she's one of the greatest living poets.

Speaking of cool women, I ran into Pema Chödrön at Vitamin Cottage here in Denver last Tuesday (I didn't bother her, but we exchanged comments about the welcomed downpour that was occurring outside).

Thanks, everyone, for contributing to this thread. I love hearing about new poets and reading poems I've never read. I love to think about why a poem might resonate with us at different times in different ways. It's such a personal thing, and again, I'm grateful for the generosity and respect everyone here exhibits.

Here's another favorite of mine, this one from Jane Kenyon:

Briefly It Enters, and Briefly Speaks
 
I am the blossom pressed in a book,
found again after two hundred years. . . .

I am the maker, the lover, and the keeper. . . .

When the young girl who starves
sits down to a table
she will sit beside me. . . .

I am food on the prisoner's plate. . . .

I am water rushing to the wellhead,
filling the pitcher until it spills. . . .

I am the patient gardener
of the dry and weedy garden. . . .

I am the stone step,
the latch, and the working hinge. . . .

I am the heart contracted by joy. . .
the longest hair, white
before the rest. . . .

I am there in the basket of fruit
presented to the widow. . . .

I am the musk rose opening
unattended, the fern on the boggy summit. . . .

I am the one whose love
overcomes you, already with you
when you think to call my name. . . .
Enkephalite
    07/10/06 at 01:15 PM
  Reply with quote#57

Here's a poem I came across in today that struck me. The author uses 'men' a lot here, but one could take it as men/women. I'll let the words speak for themselves...

There Are Men Too Gentle to Live Among Wolves

There are men too gentle to live among wolves
Who prey upon them with IBM eyes
And sell their hearts and guts for martinis at noon.
There are men too gentle for a savage world
Who dream instead of snow and children and Halloween
And wonder if the leaves will change their color soon.
There are men too gentle to live among wolves
Who anoint them for burial with greedy claws
And murder them for a merchant's profit and gain.
There are men too gentle for a corporate world
Who dream instead of candied apples and ferris wheels
And pause to hear the distant whistle of a train.
There are men too gentle to live among wolves
Who devour them with eager appetite and search
For other men to prey upon and suck their childhood dry.
There are men too gentle for an accountant's world
Who dream instead of Easter eggs and fragrant grass
And search for beauty in the mystery of the sky.
There are men too gentle to live among wolves
Who toss them like a lost and wounded dove.
Such gentle men are lonely in a merchant's world,
Unless they have a gentle one to love.

- Kavanaugh, 1991.
Darren
    07/11/06 at 01:23 PM
  Reply with quote#58

I like this one for some reason. It seems to me to be relevant to current events and to some of our discussions here.

 

 

Be Angry At The Sun


 

  That public men publish falsehoods
Is nothing new. That America must accept
Like the historical republics corruption and empire
Has been known for years.

Be angry at the sun for setting
If these things anger you. Watch the wheel slope and turn,
They are all bound on the wheel, these people, those warriors.
This republic, Europe, Asia.

Observe them gesticulating,
Observe them going down. The gang serves lies, the passionate
Man plays his part; the cold passion for truth
Hunts in no pack.

You are not Catullus, you know,
To lampoon these crude sketches of Caesar. You are far
From Dante's feet, but even farther from his dirty
Political hatreds.

Let boys want pleasure, and men
Struggle for power, and women perhaps for fame,
And the servile to serve a Leader and the dupes to be duped.
Yours is not theirs.


Robinson Jeffers

Darren
    07/11/06 at 05:18 PM
  Reply with quote#59

Robinson Jeffers was an American poet. He was a 20th century poet who lived through both World War 1 and 2 and you can see the influence of these turbulent times on his work. From what I know of Nihilism I think it is fair to say Jeffers was a Nihilist. I suppose one could view his writing as dark and fatalistic but I tend to see simply stark realism in his words. He writes often about fate and inevitability. While some might find futility or resignation in his work I find the calm of acceptance.

 

My brother has tried to turn me on to Jeffers for quite some time. I feel his stuff really starting to click with me recently.

 

 

Sign-Post
 

 

 

Civilized, crying: how to be human again; this will tell you how.
Turn outward, love things, not men, turn right away from humanity,
Let that doll lie. Consider if you like how the lilies grow,
Lean on the silent rock until you feel its divinity
Make your veins cold; look at the silent stars, let your eyes
Climb the great ladder out of the pit of yourself and man.
Things are so beautiful, your love will follow your eyes;
Things are the God; you will love God and not in vain,
For what we love, we grow to it, we share its nature. At length
You will look back along the star's rays and see that even
The poor doll humanity has a place under heaven.
Its qualities repair their mosaic around you, the chips of strength
And sickness; but now you are free, even to be human,
But born of the rock and the air, not of a woman.


Robinson Jeffers

 

The Great Explosion
 

 

 

The universe expands and contracts like a great heart.
It is expanding, the farthest nebulae
Rush with the speed of light into empty space.
It will contract, the immense navies of stars and galaxies,
dust clouds and nebulae
Are recalled home, they crush against each other in one
harbor, they stick in one lump
And then explode it, nothing can hold them down; there is no
way to express that explosion; all that exists
Roars into flame, the tortured fragments rush away from each
other into all the sky, new universes
Jewel the black breast of night; and far off the outer nebulae
like charging spearmen again
Invade emptiness.
No wonder we are so fascinated with
fireworks
And our huge bombs: it is a kind of homesickness perhaps for
the howling fireblast that we were born from.

But the whole sum of the energies
That made and contain the giant atom survives. It will
gather again and pile up, the power and the glory--
And no doubt it will burst again; diastole and systole: the
whole universe beats like a heart.
Peace in our time was never one of God's promises; but back
and forth, live and die, burn and be damned,
The great heart beating, pumping into our arteries His
terrible life.
He is beautiful beyond belief.
And we, God's apes--or tragic children--share in the beauty.
We see it above our torment, that's what life's for.
He is no God of love, no justice of a little city like Dante's
Florence, no anthropoid God
Making commandments,: this is the God who does not care
and will never cease. Look at the seas there
Flashing against this rock in the darkness--look at the
tide-stream stars--and the fall of nations--and dawn
Wandering with wet white feet down the Carmel Valley to
meet the sea. These are real and we see their beauty.
The great explosion is probably only a metaphor--I know not
--of faceless violence, the root of all things.

Robinson Jeffers

 

Star-Swirls

Robinson Jeffers

The polar ice-caps are melting, the mountain glaciers Drip into rivers; all feed the ocean ; Tides ebb and flow, but every year a little bit higher. They will drown New York, they will drown London. And this place, where I have planted trees and built a stone house, Will be under sea. The poor trees will perish, And little fish will flicker in and out the windows. I built it well, Thick walls and Portland cement and gray granite, The tower at least will hold against the sea's buffeting ; it will become Geological, fossil and permanent. What a pleasure it is to mix one's mind with geological Time, or with astronomical relax it. There is nothing like astronomy to pull the stuff out of man. His stupid dreams and red-rooster importance : let him count the star-swirls. 

Darren
    07/11/06 at 07:08 PM
  Reply with quote#60

Hmmmmmmm. I don't know where this SPAM-ish pop up thingy came from in my last posting. It was purely unintentional. I guess that is what can happen with too much online "Cut and Paste".

 

Still a good peom though.

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